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She had an uneasy feeling right from the very first day.

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I thought there's something evil in this house.

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I felt like someone was watching her all the time.

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I started to think I was going crazy.

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I didn't want to say I think you're insane.

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Let's go see a doctor.

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You see that?

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I didn't want to say that.

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I kept getting more and more intense.

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This is crazy.

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I really wanted out of that house.

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Ahhh!

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I was married previously to Robin.

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We were married for 25 years.

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She was diabetic, so she was very hard to care for the last couple years.

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You know, it was very difficult.

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She passed away just after she turned 50 years old.

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But I bounced back pretty quick.

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It was maybe a year later I met Lynn.

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I honestly didn't think it would evolve into a relationship the way it did.

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Pick anything you like.

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She picks out this ring, you know, and I was like, well, you want to get married?

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We got married within a year of meeting each other.

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It was a whole new life for me.

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I never had kids, and I always wanted to have a little boy.

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Now I have this beautiful woman and this little boy, and I finally get the family that I wanted.

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Things couldn't be better.

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Mark was still living in the same house that he and Robin shared.

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Isn't it beautiful?

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It was a beautiful house on a beautiful piece of property.

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I felt really privileged to have gone from having nothing to marrying a man who could give my son and I anything we wanted.

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Jesse, let's go in the house.

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I was excited that Jesse was going to have a beautiful house to grow up in, in the country.

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When I went in the house, I was amazed.

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Mark owned an antique store.

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There was paintings and vases and antiques.

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I'd never seen so much beautiful furniture in one place, but I was very nervous.

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Don't touch anything, Jesse.

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Jesse's going to break something or damage something that was irreplaceable.

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Welcome to your new home.

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It was very dark. The blinds were shut. There was no life. It just felt dead.

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She was uneasy right from the very first day.

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She was freaked out by all the angels that Robin had collected.

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Figurines, pictures, China cabinets just filled with angel figurines.

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They were all over the place.

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Jesse, don't touch.

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The house was still all decorated by Robin's hand.

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After she died, I hadn't changed anything.

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Robin had her own room upstairs.

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She had it all decorated up. I had a bed up there, and she would go up there, and she hung out in there.

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He asked Jesse and I to stay out of it.

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I didn't want people going in there. It was her room.

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Let's go find your room, Jesse.

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Robin, she and I had very different tastes.

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She was very happy.

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She was very happy.

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Robin, she and I had very different tastes in how we like to decorate.

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I really, really hated a lot of the things that she had in there.

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At first, I was reluctant. I didn't really want to change it all.

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But after a while, I was like, we got to get rid of these things.

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He said nothing in the house really meant anything to him anymore.

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He's in the business of selling things, so anything in the house could be sold.

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Let's have a garage sale. Let's get rid of these angels.

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I was taking down a lot of angels and putting them in boxes.

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I just couldn't wait to get rid of them.

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I always felt uncomfortable. Maybe like I shouldn't be there.

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At first, it was just a feeling. Very uncomfortable.

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Like, eyes were just on me.

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Thank you.

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Oh, thank you very much.

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It was a very successful garage sale.

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I was shocked at how many people like angels.

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We probably sold about 75.

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Jesse and I were waiting for Mark to come home, and he was playing.

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He was just standing there.

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And he looked up at me and said, mama, there's a lady in the tree.

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There's no lady in the tree, Jesse.

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And there's blood.

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This came out of the blue, and I honestly, at that point, I wasn't sure what he was talking about.

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So I saw that he was disturbed by this, and I said, you mean lady?

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You go away. You leave my Jesse alone.

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And he just went right back to playing.

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But curiosity got the best of me, so a couple minutes later, I said, Jesse, is the bad lady gone?

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And he looked up, and he looked across the yard, and he said, now she's in the road.

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It frightened me because he was so young, because I knew he couldn't make something like that up.

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Come on, Jesse. Let's go to the house.

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You better get going.

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Oh, no.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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You better get going.

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Oh, yeah.

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Have a good day.

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I was downstairs in the kitchen, and I heard a cry.

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So I stopped, and I listened.

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I thought maybe I was hearing things.

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I just tried to brush it off and go back to work.

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Jesse?

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I thought it was odd, because immediately as a mother, I think, oh, my son's crying, and then it hits me.

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He's not even here.

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Where's this crying coming from?

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It was within the house. It wasn't coming from outside.

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I went into every room, and there was nobody or nothing there.

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I heard a lot of noise coming out of Robin's room, the room we were never to go into.

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I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

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I had a horrible feeling.

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The blinds were flapping, and it was very cold in there.

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The windows were both opened, and there was so much stuff across the floor.

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I could not figure out how that got opened.

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I came home, and I thought, what the heck is going on here?

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It looked like someone had been in there rifling through everything.

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Marilyn, why did you come in the room?

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Look, it's a mess.

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I didn't want rain coming in, getting in, Robin's stuff.

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I was angry about it.

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So I just found it like that.

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Well, look at the room.

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He clearly didn't believe me, and I thought, well, maybe it's just me.

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I started to think there was something wrong with me.

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Did Jesse, did he do this?

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She was saying it wasn't her, and it wasn't Jesse.

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Who else could it be?

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Did you do this?

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No, I didn't.

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Mark and I were lying in bed, and all of a sudden I woke up.

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You could hear children laughing, playing, and I said to Mark, do you hear that?

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He just laid his head back shut his eyes, and he went, yup.

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What is it?

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We have a swing set right outside our window.

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It sounded like they were right outside playing.

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I don't know why I kept looking for these things I was hearing.

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But when you hear a child, your instinct is to go look for it.

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There was nothing.

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I don't know what I was thinking I was going to find.

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He had to throw down one handful after the other out of his pockets.

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It was hard for me to put Jesse to bed.

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His room is right across from Robin's room.

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Okay, time for bed.

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And so for the longest time I wouldn't put him to bed.

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I kept him with me.

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And Mark's like, absolutely not.

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You have to put him to bed.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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We were sitting in the living room watching television.

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Jesse started screaming.

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Almost like he had been hurt.

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It was that kind of a cry.

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He had only been up there for a few minutes.

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And I'm like, what's he screaming about?

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Mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy.

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Jesse, are you okay?

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He's just screaming before you get to the closet.

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Mama, mama.

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Jesse, in the closet.

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Oh, Jesse, there's nothing there.

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You just had a bad night.

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I'm okay.

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Mommy, mommy, mommy, mama, mama.

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He's terrified. He's crying.

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His face is beat right.

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I didn't know what to do.

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I couldn't see what he was seeing.

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You're gonna be okay.

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Okay.

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Marilyn.

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Mark told me to put him back to bed.

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He just wanted attention.

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He's really scared. I have to stay with you.

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I was like, kids see things at night.

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I mean, I always thought there was ghosts in my closet too.

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I can see why Mark felt that way, but I knew better.

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So I laid with him for a while till he calmed down,

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and I was so mad at Mark that he made me put him back to bed.

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I felt like I wasn't getting any support.

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It's really hard as a mom to watch your child be terrified

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and terrified of something you don't know what it is.

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It was Sunday morning, and Mark was at the store.

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I had decided to catch up on some housework.

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It was something big and heavy, and you could hear glass break.

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Jesse, you okay, hon?

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Yeah.

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And so I went into the kitchen, and the water was on just full blast, both faucets.

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Jesse couldn't have done that. He wasn't tall enough.

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And as I was shutting that off, there was banging at the garage door,

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in the laundry room.

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You could see the door move.

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Like something was trying to bust the door in.

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So I just mustered up all the courage I could, and I opened the door really fast.

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There was nothing happening in the garage.

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No breeze. There was nothing there.

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There was something just beating on the door, beating on the door,

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and the door was moving.

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You could see the door move.

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And all of a sudden, the lights were flashing.

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Jesse, where are you?

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Jesse, where are you?

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And at that point, I could see my son is really afraid.

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So I picked up the phone, and I called Mark at the shop.

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Mark, you have to come home.

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She's in a panic. She's crying. Please come home.

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I just thought, what is going on here?

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No, no, you have to come home, please.

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And I just remember thinking, this is crazy.

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Come home. Please come home. Come home.

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I felt like I was just frozen in fear.

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I didn't understand why Mark wouldn't come and get us.

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I was starting to wonder if she wasn't having a nervous breakdown.

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I felt like I was insane at that point.

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What if I was crazy?

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Then they locked me up or something.

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I don't want to ever lose my son.

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Oh, sweetie.

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Oh, my God.

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I was a little surprised when she started talking about being afraid

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or not being comfortable in the house anymore.

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Right?

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Because that wasn't at all like her.

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We're going to sort this thing out.

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All right?

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My sister was studying psychology in college,

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and she brought some books over, and we also got on the internet.

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I would show her what the symptoms were exactly,

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and we went through them.

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People with schizophrenia that have hallucinations

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do not experience them the same way that Mary Lynn was.

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They weren't speaking to her or telling her to do things.

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I'm telling you.

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My sister's the only one who I could trust.

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I felt at that point.

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I'll go have a look around.

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So I asked her to look around.

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It was a very lovely house.

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There was a lot of very beautiful things there.

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My eyes were just wandering everywhere, room by room.

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As I was approaching the door,

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I started feeling a little bit different.

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My heart started racing.

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And I just felt very anxious.

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I call it that fight-or-flight type of feeling

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where you just kind of want to turn around and run right out of there.

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Mary Lynn was down there waiting for me,

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and I told her what I was experiencing.

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She said that was the same room where Robin was when she was sick.

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Why don't we go get some lunch?

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Oh, no, I can't. I have to be just here for the night.

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Okay.

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When she told me she felt weird around that area,

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I thought, well, it must be Robin.

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She's still in there. She's still here.

254
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She doesn't want to leave her house.

255
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I did tell Mark, and again, he just brushed me off.

256
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I kept saying, no, it can't be, it can't be Robin.

257
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I didn't believe that.

258
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,120
Robin would never do that.

259
00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,120
You know, she's not that kind of person.

260
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A little while later, I started working with Mark at the antique store.

261
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I don't want you to...

262
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:11,120
Anytime I wasn't in the house, it was great.

263
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My son was at school. He was safe.

264
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,120
And I got to be with Mark most of the day.

265
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Comfortable?

266
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Yeah.

267
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Yeah? Good.

268
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So I felt a lot safer, too.

269
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It's a beautiful store.

270
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It's in an old historic building built in the late 1800s.

271
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It's very big. It's 10,000 square feet, two levels.

272
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And it was absolutely beautiful.

273
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Okay, next, I like to put the clock in front of the store.

274
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Peter started out as a customer.

275
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I bought every single Beatles album that was in the shop.

276
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And she saw that and we started talking.

277
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Watch your head.

278
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And I said, I wish I could hire you, but you're not in my budget right now.

279
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And he said, I'll work for free.

280
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This would be fun for me.

281
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I'll help you sit myself.

282
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,120
Lynn and I were working on one of the windows in the shop.

283
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:12,120
There was this picture frame that was leaning against the counter.

284
00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:23,120
Just kind of lifted up and fell over.

285
00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:30,120
This picture just picked up and kind of flew across the room and landed.

286
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Face down.

287
00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:40,120
Peter and I just looked at each other.

288
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,120
Did you see that?

289
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:46,120
I just was thinking, what the hell was that?

290
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,120
What the hell just happened?

291
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,120
Peter and I were closing the store.

292
00:22:56,120 --> 00:22:58,120
And just as we were leaving...

293
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,120
We heard some footsteps upstairs.

294
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:07,120
Did you hear that?

295
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,120
We just stopped and we listened.

296
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:14,120
We have accidentally shut lights off on customers before not realizing they're in there.

297
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,120
Someone must be upstairs.

298
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,120
But I knew we had gotten all the customers out of the shop.

299
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,120
We checked the monitors on the camera.

300
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,120
There was nobody up there.

301
00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:32,120
But there was still very clear footsteps walking.

302
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:37,120
I'm gonna step up there and have a little peek.

303
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,120
My heart was beating pretty fast.

304
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,120
I just didn't know what to expect.

305
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:59,120
Something pounded.

306
00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,120
They made me jump out of my skin.

307
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,120
I'd never seen him react like that.

308
00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,120
I didn't care what was back there.

309
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,120
I was gonna get out of there.

310
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:16,120
I was frightened thinking it was out of control.

311
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,120
It wasn't going away. It was getting worse.

312
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,120
Mark went in and looked around the shop.

313
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,120
And there was nobody there.

314
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,120
It was scary for me.

315
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:58,120
I didn't want to say, I think you're insane.

316
00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:01,120
Let's go see a doctor.

317
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,120
I didn't want to say that, you know?

318
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:10,120
I felt very trapped. I didn't know where to go.

319
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:13,120
I couldn't go home. I couldn't go to work.

320
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:19,120
This was happening everywhere I was going and there was no place to get away from it.

321
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,120
It was starting to scare me.

322
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:29,120
I didn't want to lose them.

323
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:34,120
It kind of seemed like, you know, they're gonna leave.

324
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,120
I really wanted out of that house.

325
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,120
I begged Mark to move.

326
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:52,120
I want to be able to protect my family,

327
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:58,120
but I didn't have the resources to, you know, just pack up and go somewhere else.

328
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:03,120
I should have left. I should have got out of there.

329
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,120
More than soldier.

330
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:29,120
I remember getting up, you know, and I looked down.

331
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,120
I got these three scratches on my hand.

332
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:38,120
I'm thinking, how did that happen?

333
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:41,120
It looked like someone just went like this.

334
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:47,120
And about the same time,

335
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,120
I saw three marks on my side.

336
00:26:55,120 --> 00:26:58,120
She's got these scratches on her side.

337
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,120
It looked like someone had scratched us both.

338
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:06,120
And what scared me is I didn't feel it happen.

339
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:09,120
It didn't wake us up.

340
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,120
I did not have a rational explanation for any of it.

341
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:25,120
That evening, I decided to go sit down and watch television with my husband.

342
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:36,120
I kept telling myself, just watch TV, just deal with it, get over it.

343
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:45,120
I felt like someone was watching me.

344
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,120
I was like, what?

345
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,120
She's like, I can't sit in the living room.

346
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,120
You know, I'm like, why?

347
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,120
They're looking at me.

348
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:05,120
She's like, well, there's these people looking down on me.

349
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,120
Do you see them?

350
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,120
Who's looking at you?

351
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,120
Do you see them?

352
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:14,120
I didn't see anything.

353
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,120
I totally panicked.

354
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,120
Jesse, where are you?

355
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:30,120
Jesse?

356
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,120
My heart was racing. I couldn't breathe.

357
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:36,120
Jesse!

358
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:39,120
I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

359
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Jesse?

360
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,120
Jesse?

361
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120
Jesse?

362
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,120
I ran to Jesse to make sure he was okay.

363
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,120
I didn't want to scare him.

364
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,120
I realized at that moment it wasn't Robin.

365
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,120
She was wearing black Victorian morning clothes.

366
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,120
A little boy had on my little suit from that era.

367
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,120
Robin wouldn't be dressed in Victorian clothing.

368
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,120
So I knew it couldn't be Robin.

369
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,120
Tonight, Jesse got burnt.

370
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,120
That was the scariest thing I ever seen.

371
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,120
Jesse, dinner's ready.

372
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120
I'm still freaked out by it.

373
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,120
Jesse, Mark and I were all in the kitchen,

374
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,120
and I had all the food out on the counter.

375
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120
I was like, I'm gonna go and get some food.

376
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,120
I was like, I'm gonna go and get some food.

377
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,120
I was in the kitchen, and I had all the food out on the counter,

378
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120
and we were all standing there fixing our plates.

379
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,120
Jesse reached up.

380
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,120
And just as he touches his piece of chicken,

381
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,120
he's screaming.

382
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120
He was just shaking, like he's being electrocuted.

383
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,120
I'm standing there next to him, and I'm like,

384
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,120
what's the matter? What's the matter?

385
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,120
He was crying, he was panicking.

386
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,120
My side, my side.

387
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,120
So we lifted up his shirt to see what was wrong.

388
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,120
And his red mark appeared.

389
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,120
It just started to grow as we were looking at it,

390
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,120
you know, bigger and bigger.

391
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,120
There's nothing high around him.

392
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,120
Couldn't explain it.

393
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,120
It was the scariest thing I've ever seen.

394
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,120
I should have taken him to the doctor,

395
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,120
but how do you explain that?

396
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,120
I had no explanation.

397
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,120
I couldn't go in and lie.

398
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Merck saw it all.

399
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,120
I don't know.

400
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,120
It had a major effect on him.

401
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120
He finally believed us, but it had to come to that.

402
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,120
For the next few weeks, it was like I was just not there.

403
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,120
Jesse's getting hurt. We're getting hurt.

404
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120
What's going to be next?

405
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,120
We bunkered down in the bedroom.

406
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
Jesse and I did. We did everything in the bedroom.

407
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,120
It made it worse that it wasn't Robin,

408
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,120
because if it was Robin, there would be a reason for it.

409
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,120
I got this perfect family,

410
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,120
but now she's afraid to come out of the bedroom.

411
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,120
You know, she's scared to come out of the bedroom.

412
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120
I thought there was something evil in this house.

413
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,120
I...

414
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,120
Merck, I'm going to bed.

415
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,120
Good night.

416
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,120
I was feeling a sense of pressure building in the house.

417
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,120
They were watching me.

418
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120
I felt like someone was watching her all the time,

419
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,120
even though I couldn't see it or hear, feel it or anything.

420
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,120
I didn't know what to do about it.

421
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
I was just so scared.

422
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
I was so scared.

423
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,120
I looked over, and I see this woman go down into the basement.

424
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,120
And so I went walking over there.

425
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,120
And the door was shut.

426
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,120
So I was thinking,

427
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:46,120
a woman in a dress just walked right through this door.

428
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,120
What is going on here?

429
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Merlin?

430
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,120
Merck, I'm too late.

431
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,120
I'm...

432
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Sometimes when they'd appear, the woman had a baby.

433
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Merlin?

434
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,120
Merlin?

435
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,120
Merlin?

436
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120
What was that?

437
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,120
I was starting to see the stuff just like Mary Lynn now.

438
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,120
So I was totally believing her.

439
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,120
From that point on, I knew she wasn't crazy.

440
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120
And I was terrified because I didn't know what it was,

441
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,120
what to do,

442
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,120
and how to live in my house.

443
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,120
I decided I needed to call someone in for help

444
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120
to figure out who this woman was.

445
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,120
And if I was in danger.

446
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,120
I made some phone calls and found two local historians.

447
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,120
We love unusual stories.

448
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,120
What we like to do is find out what in history

449
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120
may have created this unusual event.

450
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120
When we first got to the store, we were introduced to Mary Lynn.

451
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,120
And she seemed like a very sweet woman.

452
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,120
She was friendly, she was smiling, very courteous.

453
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Even though I will say that she did have a slightly haunted look,

454
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,120
if that's an appropriate way to describe it.

455
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,120
I was afraid they wouldn't believe me or would laugh at me.

456
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,120
I think I was crazy.

457
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,120
It's just over here?

458
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,120
I did think she could have been a very troubled woman.

459
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,120
You always have to consider that as a possibility in a case like this.

460
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120
They were very kind and they listened to me.

461
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,120
And they said that they look into the past

462
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,120
of what happened in the area I lived in.

463
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,120
We know research.

464
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120
We're all about research, all about the history

465
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,120
that may create the hunting, not just the hunting.

466
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,120
We will look at land records, that certificates,

467
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,120
birth certificates, census records.

468
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,120
We do a lot of that.

469
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:09,120
And in this case, we certainly did hours and hours of research.

470
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,120
I was shocked when I learned what they found out.

471
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,120
The antique shop used to be the Porter A Wright hardware store.

472
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,120
It was the center of the town for the time period

473
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,120
because it supplied manufacturing and farmers.

474
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,120
And gossip?

475
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,120
And gossip.

476
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
They didn't have Facebook then, so it was a source of gossip.

477
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,120
We were looking at land records and we saw that the property

478
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:55,120
where Mary and her husband resided had been a farm since the early 1870s.

479
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120
A young girl by the name of Teresa Stison lived at the farm.

480
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,120
She was living with her uncle, Phillip, and his wife.

481
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Teresa, time to come inside the house, sweetheart.

482
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,120
They had a young orphan boy who they cared for.

483
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,120
His name was Nate.

484
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,120
Teresa.

485
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120
And it made a very interesting family.

486
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Months later, Teresa became pregnant.

487
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,120
During Victorian era, that was unthinkable that a single young woman

488
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,120
would become pregnant.

489
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,120
So Phillip had to send her.

490
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,120
He had to send her to a sanatorium far away.

491
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Teresa's pregnancy was a tough one,

492
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,120
and her birth was even more difficult.

493
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,120
She gave birth to an infant, a young boy who died.

494
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,120
No one in town knew.

495
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,120
The only one who knew was Porter A. Wright.

496
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120
When Teresa was sent away to the sanatorium,

497
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,120
the owner of the hardware store was used as a liaison

498
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,120
for communications between her and her uncle Phillip.

499
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,120
And how he did that was rather clandestinely.

500
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,120
He would send letters via Porter A. Wright's store

501
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,120
and send her to them anonymously.

502
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120
It wasn't long after that she became very ill.

503
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
She knew she was near death.

504
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,120
And it was at that point that she told the people at the sanatorium

505
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:56,120
that her uncle Phillip was the father of her child.

506
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,120
Phillip's Dyson was placed on trial.

507
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,120
And during testimony it was little Nate,

508
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,120
the orphan boy who lived with them,

509
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,120
who gave key testimony, very damning testimony.

510
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,120
Phillip's Dyson was found guilty of incest.

511
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,120
But the judge dismissed it,

512
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,120
saying that the testimony was hearsay,

513
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120
and the trial was dismissed.

514
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,120
When Teresa died, she was just 19 years old.

515
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,120
Teresa's Dyson was really wronged.

516
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:10,120
She died with people thinking she was having an affair with her uncle.

517
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,120
When I really believed she was being blasted by her uncle,

518
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,120
and I don't think that she could rest until her story was told.

519
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,120
It was like peeling back the layers,

520
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,120
and every time you peeled another layer back,

521
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,120
something new would happen.

522
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,120
They lived on Phillip's Dyson's farm.

523
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,120
Porter A. Wright's hardware store is the Holly Anne Teak shop.

524
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,120
A woman in Victorian clothing holding an infant.

525
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,120
I was seeing her, her baby.

526
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Mary Lynn and Teresa Styson were living the same lives,

527
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,120
only maybe a hundred years apart.

528
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,120
All these connections were just unbelievable.

529
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,120
They were still there.

530
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,120
Everything just sort of clicked right into place.

531
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,120
She knew that she was where she was supposed to be.

532
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,120
She was supposed to be working in the antique store,

533
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,120
and she was supposed to be living at the house where she is.

534
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,120
She had been validated. She wasn't crazy.

535
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,120
I mean, there really was a connection between her and this Victorian family.

536
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,120
I don't see them anymore.

537
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,120
I don't see the woman and the two children anymore.

538
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120
Whoa, slow down.

539
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,120
It was a really terrifying experience for me,

540
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:45,120
but in the end, I'm really happy and almost honored

541
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,120
that she chose me to tell her story through.

542
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,120
She's a huge part of me and a huge part of my life.

543
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:59,120
Looking back, you know, I should have done more.

544
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,120
I should have been more supportive.

545
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:09,120
I should have believed Jesse instead of just every kid's afraid of the dark.

546
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,120
And I treated Mary Lynn the same way.

547
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,120
I regret that. I really do.